Friday, May 15, 2009

What's In A Word?

Something that has amused me for years is the use of the word "Investment" by the Dems for what they call government spending. They are always investing in something, the schools, health care, our future.

I have wondered if people were really buying this? If using the word investing fooled people and made them feel better about the Dems spending our money?

Turns out they don't, according to a Fox poll.

The Obama administration consistently uses the word "invest" or "investment" instead of government "spending." Even so, most Americans don't make the distinction as fully 78 percent say it means spending their tax dollars, not saving them.

So, 4 out of 5 people are smarter than the Dems give them credit for. Interestingly, 1 out 5 people are not. You draw your own conclusion on how they vote.

There are other numbers in the poll that are not real good news for the Obama administration.

In addition, 54 percent of voters think the Obama administration is proposing too much of an increase in government spending, while 6 percent say not enough. About a third -- 35 percent -- says the spending is "about right."

A majority of Democrats (61 percent) think the president's proposed spending is about right, while majorities of Republicans (85 percent) and independents (61 percent) think there is too much of an increase.

The flip side of government spending is budget cuts, and the poll finds 6 in 10 think President Obama is not cutting enough waste from government, including 84 percent of Republicans, 66 percent of independents and 38 percent of Democrats.

Look closely at these numbers.

First we discard the GOP numbers. The answers are probably equal parts reflective of how they feel and partisanship.

The real story is in the numbers from the independents and Obama's fellow Dems.

On spending, 61% of Democrats think Obama's spending is about right. Not a bad number but simple math shows that 4 in 10 Dems don't share this view, not a small number either. You have almost the same number of Dems that think he is not cutting enough waste.

While you can't read too much into these numbers, they could show his support among his own party is a little soft just barely 100 days into his first term.

The reason that this could be dangerous for Obama is the one reason he has the support he has is that his voters like him. The thing to be seen is if they like him enough to override misgivings about his ability to right our economy.

Most importantly, liking Obama may not drive those Dems to the polls in 2010 Congressional elections if they think the government is wasting their money. Or, worse, some Dems on the fence may vote for the GOP.

Then there are the numbers from the independents. There are real warning signs for the Dems in 2010 in this poll.

Among independents 61% think his spending is too high and 66% think he is not cutting enough from the budget.

This is obviously dangerous because independents decide elections.

The GOP needs to waken from it's slumber and get some leadership, which they appear to be doing finally.

With the Dems averaging approximately a scandal a week and Obama's economic policy being exposed for the scam it is, a rejuvenated GOP can do some real damage in 2010.

source for poll


Greywolfe said...

The topic of how to bring independants into the GOP camp has been beaten and kicked to death in and out of the GOP. The elites in the party say that they need to move to the left in order to redefine the GOP brand to include the largest number of voters.

Others, and I must admit that I am mostly in this group, believe that if the GOP would return to Reagan Principles, there would be a natural move by "blue-dog Dems" and independants away from Barry and his socialist brethren.

There is, admittedly, a third camp, and this is where the rest of my inclinations lie, that the GOP brand is defunct. The true Conservatives should abandon the Republican brand and start a new party sans the elitists that currently run the GOP. This party would by necessity have a definate statement of intent and goals. Small unobtrusive government, a return to original intent, fiscal and social reform, and a repealing of the current tax code and IRS laws, with a switch to either the fair tax or a flat tax.

Definate plans to save/fix/repeal, whatever, the SSI and Medicare/medicaid programs must be central to the parties core principles. Without these reforms we cannot survive.

LUCKY said...

This third party you speak of is currently where I find myself landing. For a long time I labeled myself as a republican but recently in the last three years I have found myself no longer allied with the deeds of those in office with the title of republican.

I am a 9/12er so to speak and a Tea Partier. Recently I have seriously been wondering if we will see a new party born out of these two grass roots movements. If it will become a viable thrid party that can break the back of the two party system can only be seen.

I think one of the major problems with politics in general is the lack of term limits on our legislature that creates career politicians instead of statesmen.

Leslie said...

Good post Chuck!

I am not one for labels, but I have to say the problem with a third party is the time it takes to grow it. If a third party were viable, 1) it should have been planted MANY years ago 2) it would have shown some proof of viability in the grassroot movements already in place. The problem is people will not make a determined move behind an unknown third party. They will vote with what they know: Rep. or Dems.

The issue here is if the Rep. party is the party for conservatives, then they need to get back to the grassroot beliefs of conservatives. No more moving to the left in order to be a "big tent." People were drawn to Reagan because he held to his conservative principles and that led to growth of the Rep. party. He did not compromise in order to get people into the party. He was a conservative and welcomed anyone who wanted to follow conservative values into the tent.

A third party, I feel, would only serve to split the vote in tight elections. We have seen this happen a few times. A great example is how Clinton won the presidency. The issue here is drawing back to the conservative roots in the GOP. Why do you think the media is singing that the GOP is washed up, that they need to move left, that they need to abandon Reagan ideals and conservative beliefs? Because the LIBs know that if the GOP got serious they would have the majority of Americans backing them.

~~That's my two cents. Leslie

Leslie said...

Oh I am in favor of repealing the tax code, small government, and term limits.

Chuck said...

Greywolfe, I agree. The GOP is doing it backwards. Reagan didn't cater to the left and he took Dems away from the Democratic party. Since then the GOP has done all it can to reverse his success.

I don't think we will see a major third party, I think the GOP is at the beginnings of a revival. The new faces of Jindal, Pelosi, etc are conservatives.

Lucky, I'm with you on the 9/12 and tea party bit but I think a 3rd party would be unsustainable as a major force.

Leslie, dead on. Don't leave, make the RINO's leave.

As far as the taqx code, I am a committed flat tax person.

Pasadena Closet Conservative said...

I'm still waiting for the return on that investment.

Nothing yet...

...still waiting...

Chuck said...

PCC, you would think. Problem is that you will not get a dividend because you are, a legal citizen of the United States, caucasian, male, heterosexual

JINGOIST said...

Great post Chuck, i like the way you think! Enough people don't give a flip about the reasons why governments SPEND instead of INVESTING that B. Hussein was elected.

I've seen you over at Z's and I like the way you think!

DaBlade said...

a rejuvenated GOP can do some real damage in 2010... Man, I hope so.

Chuck said...

Jingoist, thanks for stopping by and thanks for the compliments. Z's great. PCC's comment summed it up well, we're all still waiting for a return on our investment. See you around, stop by again.

DaBlade, we're all working on it. It's the grass roots that will do it.