Saturday, July 18, 2009

Quote Of The Week

I'm not back yet, I will return in a few days. I just had to post this though.

We did not make it to the Upper Peninsula for our camping trip, motorhome broke down, towed home. Long story, will tell it later.

We wound up in Pittsburgh instead. Great city and we are having fun. We took my wife's laptop to keep up on the weather but I was not going to do any blogging.

We went to Shanksville Saturday and I was so moved I had to post about it.

For anyone who has not been, the site of the Flight 93 National Memorial is actually a beautiful and peaceful place. It is almost surreal looking out over the hills considering the horror that occurred there.

We took a lot of pictures and I will post more on it later. Here are a couple that I like though.

This is a picture of my daughter leaving a message. She too was moved by the site.



Anyways, on to the quote. We spent the day before in a museum in Pittsburgh and they had an exhibit on Abraham Lincoln. While there I read the Gettysburg Address again. A portion of the address kept going through my mind in Shanksville Saturday.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate...we can not consecrate...we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract.

The site only has a temporary memorial for now, they are building a permanent one starting in the fall and they should. A volunteer telling the story of the Flight and the bravery of the men and women onboard also gave us a description of the pending monument, it sounds great.

Thinking of Lincoln's words though, what can we do that would not pale in comparison to what the brave heroes onboard this flight have given to us?

Thank you,
Chuck

12 comments:

Gramma 2 Many said...

Stand up and fight for our country. Do not let it fall to the enemy within. In doing so, their sacrafice will have been in vain.

93site said...

Here is your quote Chuck: "For anyone who has not been, the site of the Flight 93 National Memorial is actually a beautiful and peaceful place. It is almost surreal looking out over the hills considering the horror that occurred there."

Do you believe that the passengers and crew saw what you just described? Do you believe that they were waiting for such an open site to take back Flight 93?

Chuck, I would not call this site beautiful but I would agree it is peaceful. You said what happened on Flight 93 was "horrible" ...horrible does not even come close to describe what happened on Flight 93 or the other planes that were hijacked or the World Trade Towers.

I ask you Chuck, is not this the final resting place for the 40 heroes on Flight 93? Or do you see it as a National Park for hiking, camping or having a picnic?

I find it very interesting that you did not comment on the selected design for the Memorial. I would have thought the Volunteers would have explained and shown you pictures of the design. The selected design was first called Crescent of Embrace then changed to Circle of Embrace. Please look at the design, do you see the the obvious Islamic symbols?

It sounds to me that those in charge are now trying to take the attention away from the memorial design that is riddled with Islamic symbols by promoting the actions of the 40 passengers and crew on Flight 93.

I ask you Chuck, why didn't those in charge honor what happened on Flight 93 from the very beginning?

How in the world did they get off course? Are they still off course?

Brooke said...

Bummer about the breakdown, but I'm glad you had a good turnout nonetheless.

AirmanMom said...

Sorry to hear the vacay did not goes as planned, but it looks as though good has come from it all the same!
~AM

MK said...

Heck of a post Chuck, thanks for sharing that with us.

shoprat said...

This time it's a world wide civil war between the civilized world (what's left of it) and the twin barbarians of socialism and Islam.

Chuck said...

Gramma, thanks

93, I am a little confused as to where you are coming from.

I said that it was a a beautiful and peaceful place, and I stand by it. The point I was trying to make was that it was an irony that such a beautiful place could be also a site of such horror. As far as this remark:

"Do you believe that they were waiting for such an open site to take back Flight 93?"

I am sorry but that statement is plain idiotic and I will not respond to it.

As to the design, I googled an image. I think it is an eye of the beholder thing. I see a half-circle. I have a little trouble getting very excited about it.

I am quite disgusted that it has taken so long to erect these memorials. I think government at all levels, from local through Congress to Bush's White House have let these people down by letting the projects getting mired in politics.

Finally this,

"I ask you Chuck, is not this the final resting place for the 40 heroes on Flight 93? Or do you see it as a National Park for hiking, camping or having a picnic?"

You can kiss my ass. Maybe you need to know more about a blog before you start making retarded statements like this. I was watching the planes fly into the WTC on 9/11 on television and it changed my life forever.

Feel free not to come back.

Brooke, thanks, all's well that ends well

Airman's Mom, I have always wanted to go to SHanksville. Glad I did

MK, thanks. It's hard to describe the feeling being there.

Shoprat, agreed

Z said...

Hi, Chuck, I'm glad I came by to see IS CHUCK HOME YET? You're missed!
Sorry about the breakdown but it looks like you're having a super trip, anyway..great!

As for the site, I look forward to more from you; I've never been and can't imagine how moving it is, thanks for the pictures and your impressions...thanks. (say HI to Mike!)

Chuck said...

Z, from the moment you drive up it's overwhelming. It's humbling. You feel as if it is greater than you, like your intruding.

If you ever get in the area, stop.

sue said...

Chuck - That is great that you took time to go to Shanksville.
That is one place I would like to go.

Always On Watch said...

I've been to Shanksville. As far as I'm concerned, my visit there was one of the most meaningful and most moving places I've ever visited!

Had that plane crashed in nearby Somerset, the damage would have been devastating. So many gas stations there, right off the turnpike and all.

But where Flight 93 went down, nobody on the ground was hurt. I call that a miracle!

I agree with you that the site of the Flight 93 National Memorial is actually a beautiful and peaceful place.

I prefer the makeshift memorial instead of the one that's scheduled to be built there.

Chuck said...

Sue, do it if you can

AOW, thanks.

I still have a little trouble saying this is oriented to Mecca.

First, it is not in Somerset, it is several miles away. I would like to see how this makes a difference.

Second, I don't see an ovewhelming crescent there. I see a half-circle, a design that is often used in the west.

I am not very tolerant of our bending over for Islam but I am having a problem seeing it here. The description the man at the site gave (a volunteer dedicated to the memory of those lost) was of a very fitting memorial.

I guess I have to say that with all of the controversy, they should change it. If for nothing else, to erase any doubt about it's intent.

You are right though, it is a miracle that no one on the ground was hurt. As far as Somerset, it was actually quite close to Pittsburgh. If you consider that it was going over 500 mph.