Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Obama Administration On A Losing Gamble?

Bear with me, this is looong but I found it compelling.

The Obama Justice Department under Eric Holder is opening an investigation into Bush era interrogations of terrorists. Obama has said he is not in favor of these investigations, that Holder is free to make an independent judgement on the matter. This would likely have more credibility if: we had not already seen the Justice Department drop charges against 3 Black Panthers that were assisting Obama get elected and Obama had not lied about almost everything else to date.

The reasons for this probe are being debated on cable news, blogs, etc. I think we can dispense with a couple of reasons right away.

-We can dispense with the notion Holder is interested in seeing justice done considering he has shown little interest in the same in the past:

As deputy attorney general in 1999, Holder -- now attorney general nominee -- pressed subordinates to drop objections to clemency for 16 members of violent Puerto Rican nationalist organizations.

Reporting from Washington — Attorney general nominee Eric H. Holder Jr. repeatedly pushed some of his subordinates at the Clinton Justice Department to drop their opposition to a controversial 1999 grant of clemency to 16 members of two violent Puerto Rican nationalist organizations, according to interviews and documents.


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Mr. Holder's role in Bill Clinton's pardon of fugitive financiers Marc Rich and Pincus Green, a pardon that even Jimmy Carter denounced as "disgraceful" and "attributable to large gifts." Mr. Rich's former wife, Denise Rich, had donated to the Clinton Presidential Library.

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-We can also dispense with the notion that Obama is not interested in seeing this probe take place, read this:

Audio flashback : CIA probe was always part of the Obama agenda

So, what is behind this? The obvious answer IMHO is that he is in trouble once again and is bringing out the "Bush" card to play to attempt to distract the public. Health care reform is killing his popularity, they are releasing new numbers on unemployment and debt projections (neither of which are good), and what remains of Bush's war on terror has become more of a surrender in the last few weeks with increased troop deaths in Afghanistan and increased bombings in Iraq.

But the question remains, is it a losing gamble?

In the past the media has played along with the Democrat's ongoing game of "blame the Republicans". That may not help this time for a couple of reasons. One, the media is not fully dominated by liberals anymore, and two the love affair may be ending between Obama and the press.

Adding to the fact that he may not get the help from the media he could count on, I think there may be too many things working against Obama's attempt at distraction for it to work.

-Timing

-Americans are outraged at the release of the Lockerbie/Flight 103 terrorist, Abdel Baset al-Megrahi

-We are less than 3 weeks away from the anniversary of 9/11. This is, for obvious reasons, a time of heightened awareness of terrorism by Americans.

-The CIA released a report Monday showing that the interrogation techniques may have worked. Story

-Obama's poll numbers are down. Doing this earlier, he may have been shielded from backlash by his inflated popularity numbers. Now he is losing favor with a public that may not be as forgiving as they may have been months ago.

-A public who doesn't care much about the probes

Outside of the far left of the Democratic party there is not a lot of interest in seeing the investigations of Bush take place. Some reasons are:

-Time to move on. A lot of the public has and they want Obama to do the same

-The economy. There is clear evidence in polling that people care about one thing, the economy. They are concerned about keeping or finding a job, paying their mortgage, etc. Investigating Bush's war on terror tactics comes in way down the list.

-An intelligence community that is tired of being drug through the mud

The Democrats have been using the intelligence community as a weapon against Bush for the last several months and they are starting to show signs of growing weary of it. Nancy Pelosi came out of her dust up with the CIA bloody and bruised. There are also rumors of normally loyal Dem Leon Panetta quitting as Director of the CIA over the way they are being treated.

White House Denies Claim That Panetta Threatened to Quit

ABCNews.com on Monday cited reports that CIA Director Leon Panetta, frustrated by several administration actions and discussions with regard to the CIA, got in a "profanity-laced screaming match" with a senior staff member last month and has also threatened to leave.

-Dick Chaney unchained

Dick Chaney really has nothing to be quiet about anymore. He is out of the White House and out of any obligation to play the gentleman like George Bush has been doing. This has made him more than willing to speak openly.

Cheney Statement on CIA Documents/Investigation

Former Vice President Dick Cheney gave The Weekly Standard a statement Monday night about the CIA documents and the coming Justice Department investigation.

"The documents released Monday clearly demonstrate that the individuals subjected to Enhanced Interrogation Techniques provided the bulk of intelligence we gained about al Qaeda. This intelligence saved lives and prevented terrorist attacks. These detainees also, according to the documents, played a role in nearly every capture of al Qaeda members and associates since 2002. The activities of the CIA in carrying out the policies of the Bush Administration were directly responsible for defeating all efforts by al Qaeda to launch further mass casualty attacks against the United States. The people involved deserve our gratitude. They do not deserve to be the targets of political investigations or prosecutions. President Obama’s decision to allow the Justice Department to investigate and possibly prosecute CIA personnel, and his decision to remove authority for interrogation from the CIA to the White House, serves as a reminder, if any were needed, of why so many Americans have doubts about this Administration’s ability to be responsible for our nation’s security."


If we remember, the last time Chaney went head to head with Obama, Chaney's favorability rating went up and Obama's went down. In fact, whether there is a direct corrolation or not, Obama's numbers have slowly gone down since.

To make matters worse, other Republicans are following Chaney's lead. Read this:

King on Holder: 'You wonder which side they’re on'

A "furious" Rep. Peter King, the hawkish, maverick Long Island Republican, blasted a "disgraceful" Eric Holder for opening an investigation of CIA interrogators and chided his own party for what he described as a weak response to the move in an interview just now with POLITICO.

"It’s bulls***. It’s disgraceful. You wonder which side they’re on," he said of the attorney general's move, which he described as a "declaration of war against the CIA, and against common sense."


So, what are your thoughts? Is this latest game of "blame Bush" a long shot or slam dunk?

10 comments:

Gramma 2 Many said...
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DaBlade said...

i no longer wonder what side they're on.

Always On Watch said...

In my view, the Holder investigation into the GWB interrogations of terrorists has a lot to do with BHO trying to shore up his far-left base.

From the Dem view, this is a strategic mistake. The far-left wing is smaller than the centrist wing.

As for Holder, he has a it's-our-turn agenda. The dropping of the charges against those three Black Panthers speaks volumes as to Holder's underlying motivation.

Always On Watch said...

Is this latest game of "blame Bush" a long shot or slam dunk?

Long shot. A Hail Mary.

LASunsett said...

Never in the history of the United States of America has there been so much damage done, in such a short period of time. Damage has been incurred on both the domestic and foreign policy fronts and the longer this regime is allowed to continue unabated, the longer it will take to undo it.

If there was ever a need to call for voting out a party in power, it is 2010. First of all, every "blue dog Democrat" needs to go. Every one of them. They are not to be trusted and will, in the end, support their party for fear they will absorb some form of retaliation from the national party.

Z said...

Even Democrat strategist Doug Schoen last night said "It's time to more forward, we're still facing terrorism and we have to stop looking back and start doing something for the future...."(I paraphrase, but...)

The American people, other than the Far Left, can't think otherwise, they're not stupid.

If the WH keeps playing to the fringe Far Left, they're doomed.....but, there are still 3 1/2 years of damage they can do, we can't forget that.

And the media complicity is the scariest thing about this WHOLE ADMINISTRATION, in my opinion.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090826/sc_livescience/healthcaredebatebasedontotallackoflogic

check THAT piece (@$&(*@#$&*@( article out.

MK said...

"We can also dispense with the notion that Obama is not interested in seeing this probe take place...."

Hussein is just passing it along to holder and saying it's out of his hands so that no one can go after him for it. He wants holder to go after Bush, possibly to appease his leftie nut-base, but if the whole thing goes down the crapper, he also wants to be at arms-length from the whole affair.

We see shit like this here with the left, i can hear hussein already; oh i can't comment on this, the justice department is independent of me, they're free to prosecute as they please, i had nothing to do with it, talk to the hand....

cube said...

It's an attempt to distract from the rapidly tanking Obamacare (which will from now on be known as the Ted Kennedy Memorial Healthcare) and a cynical ploy to appease the left-of-left constituents who still want to blame Bush for something...anything.

I think BO had this in mind all along and just sat on it until he needed a distraction. If it goes well, he gets the kudos, if it goes bad, Holder gets the blame. Typical ass covering liberal tactic.

Chuck said...

DaBlade, did you ever?

AOW, funny you should say that<> I was watching a discussion o Fox this am and a conservative analyst was saying the same thing. 'Stop playing to the extreme left, where are they going to go anyways'. There is some risk in this (see John McCain) but she did have a point.

LA, you almost have to be impressed with what they have accomplished, if it weren't so damned scary. Now extrapolate that out to 4 years.

Z, this whole thing about where Dems stand is kind of fascinating. Bob Beckel was in on the same discussion that I mentioned to AOW. He started the debate saying that he thought it was a bad idea to do the investigation and we should be looking forward. By the end he was back to his roots, foaming at the mouth and calling for Chaney's head on a pike. They know it's a bad idea but Bush derangement syndrome is still endemic and they cannot help themselves.

Z, your link didn't work

MK, you nailed it. It's called deniable culpability and Obama has it down to a science.

Chuck said...

Cube, agreed, he's a weasel