Monday, October 5, 2009

What Do You Think About This?

McCain manager predicts Palin could prove 'catastrophic'

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The man who ran John McCain's presidential campaign warned Friday that Sarah Palin could lead to a 'catastrophic' election result for the GOP in 2012 if the former Alaska governor captures the party's presidential nomination.

"I think that she has talents," Steve Schmidt, the former campaign manager of McCain's failed presidential bid, told CNN's John King. "But my honest view is that she would not be a winning candidate for the Republican Party in 2012, and in fact, were she the nominee, we could have a catastrophic election result."

The comments came during The Atlantic Magazine's First Draft of History Conferece, held at the Newseum in Washington, DC.

"I don't think it's inconceivable that she could be the Republican nominee for President of the United States," added Schmidt — who, among others in the McCain campaign, butted heads behind the scenes with Palin in the weeks leading up to Election Day. "I do think it's fairly inconceivable that she could be elected President of the United States."

Looking ahead to Palin's upcoming book — entitled "Going Rogue" — Schmidt predicted he would be portrayed as "anti-rogue in the running of the campaign."

Now I don't want to focus as much on the benefits or risks of Palin being the nominee in 2012, it's an argument without an answer.

What I do find interesting is the fact that the campaign aide is, in my mind, clearly blaming Palin for McCain's loss to Obama.

A Presidential election is complex and very seldom does one single factor determine the outcome. With that said, what are your thoughts on the election last year in light of the above statements?

It's been long enough now to take a dispassionate look at the election. Who's fault was it? Did Obama simply beat them? Did Palin cost McCain the election? Is it McCain's fault? Or, something the advisers to McCain do not want to admit, did McCain and Palin get bad advice and was the loss a result of a poorly run campaign?

Note: Watch the video on the site. This is CNN's version of "fair and balanced", a Republican and a Democrat who agree with their view of an issue (Palin).


Z said...

video on which site, Chuck? Am I missing a link? (God, I sound like an APE here :-)

As for Monday morning quarterbacking of the McCain/Palin loss?
Is that the same Rep Strategist on MEET THE PRESS whose name escapes me?He is TOTALLY against Palin running in 2012.
I get a creepy feeling they all know she could WIN and that they might be knocked out of power in her new Washington DC, that's what I think.
Imagine a McCain/Romney bill having run against Obama? Lackluster, "two old men with the same old message" is all the left would say and they're be HEARD because they DO have the media.. etc etc...I don't think they'd have done nearly as well without Palin.
Having said that, we might have lost Conservatives or independents because the media murdered her as stupid, etc, so Sarah needs to stop quite as much of the folksy thing, she needs to start looking more professional and even more America-loving.
And she needs to carry the real conservative message; something I think the Right's afraid of.
Especially those on the Trilateral Comm and Councel for Foreign Affairs.....the ONE WORLD ORDER bunch who hate the idea of America surviving in Reagan's image.

sounds nutty, I KNOW!! I used to laugh at that opinion but I have to at least consider it. What do you think, Chuck?

Professor of Life said...

I heard that this morning and my only comment is ..How could he be so dumb.

But I guess that we saw the answer last year.

If you can't say anything nice about your own party, then don't say anything at all.
PS It was him that lost the election not her.

Gramma 2 Many said...

I am thinking it is the beginning of an effort by the entrenched Republicans to discredit her befor the election cycle begins. They have as much to lose as the Dems have if she is to make it to the White House. I do not think Sarah cares which party one belongs to when she starts cleaning out the nooks and crannies of corruption.
Sarah in 2012!!!

Chuck said...

Sorry Z, I could have been clearer. The article title is the link.

I think Palin's chances may have been damaged by the media. I do think she should act more professional or, presidential, if you will. As far as her scaring the GOP elite, I think she does. She is not one of the boys in the old guard. She upsets the apple cart. I think she is more effective pushing conservative causes and being a person on the outside throwing bombs at the GOP establishment. This will make them more honest in the long run.

Professor, welcome and thanks for stopping by. I agree, his statements serve no one but himself. This is not about the GOP, it's self-serving and a blatant attempt to salvage his career after a poor showing last year. I agree, the advisors are the ones that lost the campaign

Gramma, agreed. She is the poster child for the tea partiers and the anti-health care crowd. She puts a face on the senior citizens and soccer moms who came out for the first time to protest a government gone wild. This ultimately is not only a protest against Obama and the Democratic party but also a slap in the face of the old guard GOP. I find it curious that not many GOP politicians have embraced the tea party/health care protest organizations. These groups are a threat to their way of doing things. I think Palin represents the same threat to them.

shoprat said...

The RINOs don't want to lose their grip on the party.

Chuck said...

Shoprat, dead on

Leslie said...

Palin scares a lot of people, which is a good thing. I like to see someone the machine has not fully got its hands on. I like seeing everyone squirm uncomfortably too. It might make them stop and think a bit...

As for the election, McCain lost quite well on his own. When Palin was announced as his running mate, there was a surge on the right --people saw someone they could actually vote for. She brought him closer to the number of votes he received.

Barring the cheating that went on in this last election, and believe me there was much corruption in this election, McCain lost his own bid for the Presidency by his actions and lack of gumption to really stand firm on anything with substance. People saw through him.

I don't know why he ran. He never showed any passion to hold the office this time around, but the suspicious side of me thinks of many other reasons why McCain did not win...I shall leave my conspiracies to myself, lest I muddle your comment section with them all.

I know you didn't want to get into the future much on Palin's potential for a presidential run, but I do think it is a bad idea for her.

Loren Christie said...

Hi Chuck!
I don't think it's fair to blame Palin for McCain's loss. Perhaps their chances would have increased if they weren't clearly at odds at moments during the campaign, but that isn't enough reason to blame the loss on Palin. I like Palin, and that opinion doesn't seem too popular in my neck of the woods. Here's why I like her: I think her views on politics are closer to those of the authentic feminists, you know, suffragists. Her Republican affiliation, however, actually brings her away from that authentic platform, because both the Dems and Republicans dice up the human dignity issues. I'd love to see a woman president, but I don't think the Dems or the Rebublicans can deliver the kind of old-school woman candidate that I want to vote for. That is someone pro-family, pro-life, against Capital Punishment and pro-environmental preservation. They should invent a new ticket called the Human Dignity Ticket or something.

Chuck said...

Leslie, well put. As far as her chances in 2012, I agree. I think she is better off finding a niche on the right as a thorn in the side of the GOP. She has a good chance of bringing it back to conservatism.

Loren I think she is unpopular because she is her own person. She speaks clearly and this is an oddity on the right

Miss T.C. Shore said...

A disastrous election for the GOP in 2012 ... as opposed to the fantastic results the GOP experienced in 2008???

DaBlade said...

As usual, I agree with your studio audience Chuck. Palin was the only good thing in the entire McCain campaign. I have my doubts that anyone could have beat Obama this last go-around, as he had the independents swooning. The pendulum needs to swing hard right on this next pass, and I believe the independents are ready for that ride now.

Chuck said...

Miss TC, well put

DaBlade, independants? Is that French for 'the media'?

cube said...

My first question is, if Palin was so friggin' apocalyptic, why the hell did you pick her?

I'm of two minds about Palin myself. I love her moxie, but she has some serious drawbacks. My position, simply, is this... I want a candidate, with conservative ideals, that can win in 2012. Is that Palin?

Chuck said...

Cube, dead on about their pick. If she is such a liability, what does that say about their pickingher? As far as Palin. Like I said above, I think she is better on the sidelines