Monday, February 1, 2010

What Do You Think About This?

Climate Chief Knew of False Glacier Claims Before Copenhagen

The chairman of the leading climate change watchdog was informed that claims about melting Himalayan glaciers were false before the Copenhagen summit, the Times of London reports.

Rajendra Pachauri was told that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment that the glaciers would disappear by 2035 was wrong, but he waited two months to correct it. He failed to act despite learning that the claim had been refuted by several leading glaciologists.

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Then we have this:

UN climate change panel based claims on student dissertation and magazine article

The revelation will cause fresh embarrassment for the The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which had to issue a humiliating apology earlier this month over inaccurate statements about global warming.

The IPCC's remit is to provide an authoritative assessment of scientific evidence on climate change.

In its most recent report, it stated that observed reductions in mountain ice in the Andes, Alps and Africa was being caused by global warming, citing two papers as the source of the information.

However, it can be revealed that one of the sources quoted was a feature article published in a popular magazine for climbers which was based on anecdotal evidence from mountaineers about the changes they were witnessing on the mountainsides around them.

The other was a dissertation written by a geography student, studying for the equivalent of a master's degree, at the University of Berne in Switzerland that quoted interviews with mountain guides in the Alps.

The revelations, uncovered by The Sunday Telegraph, have raised fresh questions about the quality of the information contained in the report, which was published in 2007.

It comes after officials for the panel were forced earlier this month to retract inaccurate claims in the IPCC's report about the melting of Himalayan glaciers.

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So, what do we do with this info?

More and more proof is coming in that the "scientists" in the global warming camp have been deliberately hiding data, cherry picking data to fit their model, using laughably ridiculous sources and offering the information as research, and in some cases out and out lying about the findings.

It's easy to sit at home and laugh about these idiots, to feel vindicated because we suspected this all along, to be angry.

The problem though is that this is not just a case of junk science. These claims of global warming have driven policy changes in governments. Many governments have changed their taxation, regulation, expenditures, and have set policy that effects hiring practices. In short, this isn't just about the science. It has had, and will have in the future, significant impacts on economic policies, private ownership of property, and the ability of private companies to ply their trade.

And they were lying.

What do you think should be done about this?

Is the ridicule and loss of stature in the scientific community enough?

Should there be civil penalties? Lawsuits? Should there be criminal penalties, at least in the cases in which the deception was found to be deliberate?

What about someone like Al Gore who has made a lot of money off of this ruse? Should he have to forfeit that money?

What do you think about this?


Stopthepresses2 said...

Will someone please listen to our expert scientist! Here's an excerpt from an interview.

Professor Wagstaff: I am in a hurry. The ponies are running at the track today, don’t you know? So here’s my theory in a nutshell, on Global Warming, Global Cooling snd so on. If a beaver builds a dam, what is that dam? It’s part of nature, of course. If a bee builds a beehive, what is that beehive? It’s part of nature. If a bird builds a birdhouse, what?….ah Wait, never mind that. We don’t want to get the unions involved.

Stopthepresses: Oh I get it, if a prairie dog builds a burrow…….

Professor Wagstaff: Yes, yes I was born in Chicago the city on the prairie for which I’ve returned, but I’ll thank you to leave my Father out of this conversation. Now back to humans, if a man builds an office tower what is that office tower?

Stopthepresses: Nature.

Professor Wagstaff: That’s it, you got it. You see whatever a man does is part of nature. When a man builds something?

Stopthepresses: Nature.

Professor Wagstaff: When a man destroys something?

Stopthepresses: Nature.

Professor Wagstaff: When a man makes a machine that makes a steel can?

Stopthepresses: Nature.

Professor Wagstaff: When a man makes an auto and then drives that auto?

Stopthepresses: Nature.

Professor Wagstaff: And the exhaust that comes from that auto?

Stopthepresses: Nature.

Professor Wagstaff: Because a man is nature then whatever that man produces is part of nature. Just like the birds and the bees. So don’t get all excited about this global warming thing. It’s only nature in action. Now just think of it son, you don’t have to waste all that time dragging your wife and kids out to the woods to commune with nature, you sleep in it every night. Just think of all the money you’ll save by camping in your own home.

Stopthepresses: So a man is nature, therefore, whatever a man produces is natural, a part of nature. It’s such a brilliant and simple theory, why wasn’t it brought out before?

Professor Wagstaff: Because there’s no money in it. You can’t make money by saying everything is ok, the sky is not falling, just use a little common sense. That’s why I am broke; can you lend me five bucks until Friday?

Stopthepresses: Ah…

Professor Wagstaff: Well, think on it a minute. Plus who in their right mind would listen to a person like Al Gore. You know Al Gore, he’s the one who says he invented the Internet, Well that’s nothing, I invented the Inter-Hair-Net. What is the Inter-Hair-Net you ask? I glad you asked. Most hair nets sit on top of your hair; you see that’s very unsightly. My Inter-Hair-Net sits on your head and then your wig sits on the Inter Hair-Net. No more unsightly hair nets. It will sell millions, moohahaha moohahaha (evil laughter, rubbing his hands together).

MissTCshore said...

I think this is the biggest scandal of the past century, eclipsing even Watergate. The trillions of dollars the Global Warming scam has cost and is costing governments, industry and individuals is staggering and will never be recouped. I think monetary fines and penalties are way too mild. Anyone who is involved should be subject to serious prison time and their properties should be confiscated to pay back society for their lies.

Mr. Xyz said...

This spoof of climate science may be of interest:

Brooke said...

Every single one of them should be brought up on charges of fraud, considering what a racket global warming is!

Chuck said...

Stop the presses, funny

TC and Brooke, I agree and the thing that pisses me off is even with all of this coming out Obama and the Dims are pressing forward with their plans

XYZ, this clip never stops being funny.

cube said...

You ask if there should be ridicule of the science community that went along, civil penalties, law suits, criminal penalties, return of the money... Yes, all of the above.

shoprat said...

In a sane world these "scientists" would be facing a congressional hearing on CNN and FOX explaining their lies. Sadly that won't happen.

Chuck said...

Cube, drawn and quartered wouldn't be bad either

Shoprat, maybe coming soon?

MK said...

"These claims of global warming have driven policy changes in governments."

That's what pisses me off about all this, and even in light of these revelations, many governments are still insisting on going down this track.

"Should there be civil penalties? Lawsuits?"

Hell yes, some of these sniveling bastards ought to spend time in jail, become someone's bitch if you ask me, but unfortunately, it won't happen, too many clowns masquerading as politicians and leaders bought this crap without question and they can't let the likes of gore or this Pachauri hang out there.

Chuck said...

MK, I don't know... Can you imagine Algore as your "special friend" in prison? May be a tough sell.

Mr. Xyz said...

Here's a Youtube playlist with more.

There are two new ones:

"Frozen Wasteland" by Minnesotans For Global Warming
"Hitler on Climate Change"

and two old ones:

"Hide the Decline" by Minnesotans For Global Warming
"Climategate Glaciergate...: Hitler's Last Straw: