Sunday, July 11, 2010

Quote Of The Week

"You look like a (expletive) bitch in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of (N-word), it will be your fault," Gibson is heard telling Grigorieva. "You provoked it. You are provocatively dressed."

Mel Gibson, telling his girlfriend he did not like her dress.

Whatever happened to guys just lying and saying "No that dress doesn't make you look fat"?

So, what does that statement sound like to you?

If you answered that it was an ignorant, racist, sexist, psychotic, likely substance-induced, hateful rant you of course would be absolutely correct but it is more than that.

It is the sound of someone's career dying.

I used to like Mel Gibson. He has significant talent both as a director and an actor. We own Braveheart and I thought it was an incredible, although slightly historically inaccurate, depiction of the Scottish fight for independence.

We parted ways though when he made his anti-Semitic rants. I started to drift back a little because he went on a lengthy and, by appearances, heart-felt mea culpa. This is too much though.

These recent comments combined with his previous remarks about the Jewish makes it clear this is a disturbed and hateful man.

He will eventually play the substance abuse card, he did with his anti-Semitic comments. That only goes so far.

First, he's had one strike. He supposedly knew he had the problem before and he has not addressed the problem.

Second, I have always been skeptical of the "mean drunk" theory. I work with a lot of drunks in my job. Some of them are complete bastards when they are drunk, hitting staff, kicking, biting, spitting, etc. They are a little better when they sober up but most are still idiots to some extent.

Substance abuse is a complex issue and I am not a specialist but I do not buy into the theory that alcohol makes people mean or do things they would never do when sober.

I have always thought that alcohol lowers inhibitions and lets a person's true nature come out.

In Gibson's case, this would mean he is an anti-Semitic, racist jerk but is able to control these urges when sober. When abusing alcohol his inhibitions are lowered and his real self emerges.

What this all means for me is I am not sure if I feel sorry for someone who may be a good man but has let alcohol control and ruin his life or is, at heart, a mean SOB who needs to just go away.

Right now, I'm thinking don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.


Anonymous said...

Wow... this has caught my attention of late and your post is most thought provoking. I too was a big fan of Mel Gibson's work, and respected the flak he took over the "Passion" which was a very moving movie. Then came the anti-Semitic rant and now this sexist trash. It seems every time he opens his mouth something ugly comes forth.

I am in agreement with you Chuck. I have had alcoholism in my family, I studied it some in college classrooms, and became familiar with the dynamics when I underwent codependency therapy when my ex was picking up my 3 year old son at the sitters with glassy eyes and a paper bag covered quart of beer. I believe that "any addiction" is simply a symptom of much deeper and complicated issues that could take years and cost thousands of wasted lives to resolve. I say that because everyone around Mr. Gibson is probably quite enmeshed in his unhealthy thinking and behaviors. Alcoholics as a rule are very good at manipulation and getting those who care to jump through hoops to enable them.

His girlfriend should give him the boot. Anyone with a brain should refuse to do business with him, and fans should write him off. As most are aware, the only alcoholics who see the need to get better are the ones who are allowed to hit rock bottom, lose everything, and then they have motivation to do the work to get better. Given Gibson's previous success and healthy bank account, I don't see people letting him hit rock bottom for his own good anytime soon.

Just blabbing... but I think your thoughtful post is a good one!


Mustang said...

I won't be watching any more Mel Gibson films; I suppose he hasn't learned much from Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton. I agree with your analysis and conclusions exactly. What Mr. Gibson needs is something constructive to do with his multi-millions.

I suppose one thing he could do is become a positive role model for his children or perhaps take a more active lay role in his church.

cube said...

You're right about substance dependency being a very complex issue. People who abuse substances do so for reasons that aren't necessarily obvious to those of us on the outside.

It sounds as though he has some anger issues that he needs to address with a therapist, but if Gibson were to make another movie, I wouldn't stay away merely because of this incident. I would go see it if it appealed to me.

I have given up on letting the personal lives of these people dictate my viewing habits. Why? Because Alex Baldwin can rant to his little girl on the phone and yet go on to star in an award winning TV show (the name escapes me at the moment), yet, a known conservative like Gibson is ruined for life because of another alcohol-fueled rant?

I don't think so.

Chuck said...

HAM, thanks. Thanks for the insight from someone who has lived with it. I do think his girlfriend needs to kick him to the curb.

Mustang, You are dead on about him needing to re-examine his life. I don't see myself going to see another one although I do have to say I am not entirely at odds with Cube...

Cube, I can see where you are coming from but I have tendency to not support these guys. I think you are likely right that conservatives get treated different but I still have a hard time giving them my money.

Leslie said...

First off, the girlfriend should dump him immediately. Secondly, at one point in Hollywood life, viewers did not see every aspect of a star's life; they were not inundated with every political or personal belief of the actors or actresses. With that said, once an obscene character flaw like this becomes known, I refuse to support the person with my patronage.

Chuck said...

Leslie, I agree

cube said...

I see your point, Chuck, and Leslie's too. But suppose Mel went for therapy (which he needs) and in a few years went on to make another Braveheart or Passion of the Christ. You can honestly say you'd not support it?

I still hear liberals complaining about Rush's pill addiction and how that makes him a hypocrite and, hence, beyond following. Guess what? Liberals never followed Rush in the first place.

I think that both of these men are human and are quite capable of failing. I don't think the act of forgiveness should be restricted to just one party.

Chuck said...

Cube, I agree and cannot say with certainty I would not watch another film by him.

I do think though that it may be a moot point because I think is unlikely he will get another chance to make one.

Beyond that though, what he has done is very bad. There is talk now of him possibly making death threats. Abusing women is not forgivable sin for me because it speaks to a fatal flaw in a person.