Sunday, October 24, 2010

Quote Of The Week

"People who are legal immigrants to the United States after a five-year waiting period can become citizens and become enfranchised," spokesman Ira Mehlman said. "But until then, being here as a legal immigrant is a conditional agreement, sort of like a trial period. You have to demonstrate you are the type of person we would want to have as a citizen, then you can become a citizen and vote."

Ira Mehlman, Federation for American Immigration Reform


Read the article. Essentially what is going on here is that people across the US (pronounced Dem-o-crats) feel that it is unfair for someone who has not taken the effort to fully learn to speak English or become a US citizen to be denied the right to vote.

The solution? A quiet, this is the first I have heard of it, movement to pass laws to allow legal immigrants who have not become citizens to vote in local elections. The article recounts the story of this gentleman:

Abdirizak Daud, 40, moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago before coming to Portland in 2006. He hasn't been able to find a job. Some of his nine children have attended Portland schools, and he'd like to have a say in who's looking over the school system and the city, he said.

But between his limited English and the financial demands, Daud hasn't been able to become a citizen.

This man has lived in the US for 18 years, all of which you and I have been paying for an interpreter whenever he has accessed health care or governmental services because he has not taken the effort to become proficient in English, and he deserves the right to vote?

Now the initial reaction to this is, it's just local elections. Who cares who votes for school boards, city councils, dog catcher, right? What about local election officials? How about having these non-citizens vote for either local election officials or the people who appoint them? Still okay?

Check this site out.

Finally, one last quote to wrap things up. Think this might have anything to do with this effort?

"I like the Democrats. I want to vote for Democrats, but I don't have citizenship,"

Evidently Mr Daud, from above, can speak some English.


Brooke said...

Chuck, I could not agree more. Eighteen years and he STILL doesn't know enough English to at least muddle through? He should be deported!

Mustang said...

We aren’t doing such a good job protecting our borders. And since part of that is adequate vetting candidates for citizenship, I am not surprised to learn about Moslems such as the Time Square bomber, who admitted he lied when he took the oath of loyalty to the United States of America. Now this should really piss Americans off that a foreigner came here under false pretense, fraudulently swore to uphold the US Constitution, and conspired to kill innocent Americans. It doesn’t —it only makes conservatives angry. Leftists —well, I suppose you could argue they aren’t really Americans.

I completely agree with you, Chuck … but here’s a wakeup call. Illegal aliens are already voting in our elections. They, and the dead, vote early and often thanks to criminal organizations such as ACORN. All politics is local, my friend. When people living in MI, OH, or FL grow tired of these shenanigans, they’ll do something about it. Can anyone say “Tea Party?”

Ticker said...

Being in the country as long as this individual has been and not applied for citizenship shows me one thing. He is not interested in becoming a citizen of this country! If that is indeed the fact other than his excuse that it "cost too much", then he should be invited to leave the country and return to the hell hole from whence he came (Somalia). Money is no excuse if he is working to earn a living for his family. If he is not, then he has no business with a family.
What the jackass wants is a free ride, the right to tell the folks who are citizens how to run things without making the investment, and the ability to undermine the government starting at the local level.
No votes for non-citizens or dead ones either Mustang.
Regardless of the libtard whine, non-citizens have NO rights period other than the right to leave.

~Leslie said...

Not to bother learning English proficiently enough to live in this country is inexcusable. Especially when there are so many programs that offer free English lessons in so many areas. 18 years? And to think, I am cramming to learn Spanish is one semester in order to graduate, and am becoming proficient enough to pass a test in it... It doesn't take that long if one is motivated to do so.

I'm sure you see this in your profession a lot, Chuck. I do too. The area I live has many illegals and migrant workers etc. All of whom should by now have attempted to gain a basic grasp of the English language, but they do not. And why should they? They expect (and receive) interpretors in every social field.

Not long ago, my state passed a law requiring photo I.D be presented for all voters. There is even a program in existence that helps people who can't afford to get an I.D to get one for free. And who do you suppose is still fighting against the photo I.D law?

Local politics is so important, but I think too many people do not see that. But they need to. Sorry, terribly babbly here, but this is such an important, ignored topic...

AnnoyingJoe said...

Whether or not an immigrant can or cannot speak English isn't necessarily the immigrant's fault.

When my ancestors arrived from Europe, they had no choice but to learn English if they wished to assimilate. And so that is what they did. It was a matter of necessity.

This is no longer the case, especially among the Latino population. And who's to blame? Should someone emigrating to this country learn English? Yes. But if every public and private service is made available to them in their native language, why would they? There certainly isn't any motivation to do so.

Chuck said...

Brooke, I agree with the deportation

Mustang, we might finally be doing something in Michigan. I read a prediction today in the paper (by a liberal columnist) that it is looking like a sweep year for the GOP. Maybe we will get some election reform here.


Being in the country as long as this individual has been and not applied for citizenship shows me one thing. He is not interested in becoming a citizen of this country!


Leslie, I live in an area that is high in agriculture so a lot of illegals. I have learned a few Spanish words out of necessity and we have interpreters on staff (at our expense).

As far as the importance of local elections, it's everything

Joe, thanks for stopping by. We make it too easy for people to not learn English. This though is the liberal goal, making your life easy. We make it easy to be homeless (we have many, many programs to help them stay on the street), easy to be a drug addict (they get social security), to be unemployed (life-time unemployment benefits), to be illiterate (someone will be there to read that application to you), easy to have children as a single mother (we will support the mother and the child for as long as they need), on and on and on.

Z said...

Can things GET worse? Can we be giving America away any faster?

Why the HECK could my 9 yr old grandfather and his sisters learn English within six months and Hispanics can't?

By the way, Chuck, I'd really like your medical opinion re the death of Fran Crippen, the post's about 4 down from the top now but a lot of us are curious and don't really know the ramifications of the medical stuff associated with what happened. If you have time, let me know, okay? "

Phill Senters said...
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Phill Senters said...

The reason the push is on for non Citizens to be given voting privileges was spoken quite plainly by Mr Daud...."I like the Democrats. I want to vote for Democrats, but I don't have citizenship."...

Chuck said...

Z, it's not can, it's won't

Phil, more voters

cube said...

Anything to create a larger democrat voter base. What's next? Letting martians vote. Sheesh.

MK said...

"I like the Democrats. I want to vote for Democrats, but I don't have citizenship,"

Now you know why democrat scum will move heaven and earth to throw open the border and make the rest of you suffer the consequences. Power and control always trumps their facade of patriotism, treasonous scum.