Monday, March 14, 2011

What Do You Think About This?

Ore. Bus Driver Fired Over Confederate Flag Pushing to Get Job Back


This flag was not on his school bus but on his truck parked in the bus yard parking lot.

What are your thoughts on this?

Is there a free speech right issue here?

Does the school district have a right to regulate speech in it's parking lot? Who ultimately controls a school parking lot, the school or the public? This is an issue that is important for the constitutional issue. Is it private property belonging to the school or public property?

Finally, what do you think about this?

Phoenix-Talent schools Superintendent Ben Bergreen had demanded the flag be removed from school property, citing a policy prohibiting symbols that could be offensive to minorities.


Always On Watch said...

I'll be the authorities wouldn't object it the Pseudostinian or Saudi flag were on display.

Sam Huntington said...

I think Ben Bergreen must be typical of nitwits who permeate our educational system; they have become the principle cheerleaders for political correctness, which is another way for saying B.S. This is a very slippery slope, and I think it is so by design. For if you can restrict representations of the Confederate flag because “some people are offended,” then you can also restrict the ensign of the United States for the same reason. But I notice we did not hear a peep out of Bergreen when demonstrators raised the American flag upside down beneath the flag of Mexico. I would like to communicate with this idiot, except I don’t think I could do so without using all sorts of ear burning invectives.

Ticker said...

Under freedom of expression the school has NO right in this matter whatsoever.

In Castorina v. Madison County School Board, two students were punished for wearing Hank Williams, Jr. t-shirts that pictured two Confederate Flags.The students claimed they wore the shirts in commemoration of Hank Williams, Sr.'s birthday and "to express their southern heritage." In holding for the students, the Sixth Circuit focused on the fact that the school only prohibited display of the Confederate Flag and allowed students to display other potentially disruptive symbols, like the "X" associated with Malcolm X. The court stated that this amounted to an unconstitutional viewpoint-specific ban on certain racially sensitive symbols and not others. Further the school board did not show any kind of history of turmoil surrounding the Flag that would justify the belief that future display of the Flag would lead to disruption.

Brooke said...

As long as it is not vulgarity, I don't think a business has a right to regulate in it's parking lot.

Like you said, it wasn't on the bus (his office desk, as it were).

Chuck said...

AOW, I thought of that too

Sam, what about NAACP stickers? Or gay pride rainbows? Or, as AOW put it, a crescent? It's a very slippery slope but it always seems to slope towards the conservative side of the hill.

Ticker, correct.

Brooke, agreed.

Quite frankly I think most people that fly the confederate flag probably really are racist morons but I also think most people that join the NAACP are racist morons so how do we piss on one group's rights while being permissive of others?

Z said...

Chuck, have you seen that?

LASunsett said...

//so how do we piss on one group's rights while being permissive of others?//

We shouldn't. The right to free speech protects unpopular speech. Other than using these idiots' actions and words as a teaching tool, we should ignore them. Like kids who know no better, if they get the least bit of attention doing this stuff, they are likely to repeat it more often. Negative reinforcement is still reinforcement.

Phill Senters said...

NO wonder our kids don't do well in school. Look who's teaching them.