Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Death By PC

The shooting of the school children was one of the most horrific events I have ever seen. Keep in mind I watched the planes crash into the WTC towers on 9/11 and have spent the last 9 years of my life working in an inner city ER. I have seen all manner of depravity done to humans, including children.

It has also followed the typical pattern of the left screaming for gun control. Being that this was mostly children, the left was in rare form on this one with Mayor Bloomberg in front of a camera while the victims were still dying.

We have even had at least one Congressman say we need to take advantage of these deaths and one thoroughly repugnant British journalist wants us to tear up the US Constitution.

The icing though was the latest outrage from the professional groups for Psychiatrists and mental health professionals over comments made by the NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre.

In his recent comments he has called for armed guards in schools and for us to pay more attention to the mental health system.

His comments were a little inartful, calling the shooters lunatics, etc.

While he is right in that it takes a lunatic to commit such an act, using words like lunatic, monsters,or insane do not help move along the national conversation and makes him look like a loose cannon. In my opinion he could have made his case better if he had stayed away from incendiary words such as this.

With that said, what the APA and other groups did next was considerably more dangerous. They came out and attacked LaPieere and made clear that any conversation about the mentally ill and crime was out of bounds.

They took exception with the caricature (a slight mostly imagined on their part) that the mentally ill are psychopathic killers.

It is a common misconception that the mentally ill are dangerous. Some can be, of course. This is no more evident than many of the recent shootings, Connecticut, Colorado, Virginia Tech, Tucson, etc. A common theme is that all had a history of mental illness.

This does not mean however that the mentally ill are prone to violence. A small minority does not constitute the whole. For the most part the mentally ill are victims of violence instead of the perpetrator. They are often victims of domestic or care-giver abuse, sexual assaults, robberies and scams, and even murder.

So the outrage by the mental health advocates is not entirely misplaced, just inappropriate and misdirected.

What we are seeing from them is an absolute refusal to even discuss the issue of mental illness and violence. They are not only not refusing to discuss the notion but are ridiculing anyone who brings it up.

Why is this dangerous? They have made it politically incorrect to speak of such things. The media will now be cowered into submission. Leftist politicians will trip over themselves to be clear that some of their best friends are mentally ill. Finally, spineless Republicans will slink away and not speak of the matter for fear of being labeled insensitive to the mentally ill.

This is dangerous because the very conversation we need to be having now is about the mental health system and why it is failing us so miserably. We need to be discussing why these guys keep slipping through the cracks.

The "experts" who are attacking LaPieere need to take a good long look in the mirror. It is not the NRA that caused this mess in our mental health system, it is the members of the APA and other groups. Instead of having an adult conversation and getting these people the help they need, we will attack anyone who dares speak of it and cow them into submission.

This is becoming a far too common theme in our society. Terrorism is virtually non-existent anymore for fear of offending the Muslims. Illegal immigration is now a a matter of documentation and nothing more. To insist otherwise is racist.

We do not have conversations about terrorism anymore so we are under threat of dying. We cannot talk about the illegals anymore so our economy is in ruins. Now we have to pretend that some people who are highly psychotic, off meds, and being incompetently managed by a system that is broken are not a threat to us. So, we will continue seeing these attacks.


Radical Redneck said...

Gun control laws don't affect criminals IN ANY WAY. All it does is leave tax paying, law abiding citizens defenseless. If you're afraid of guns, it's because you don't understand them in anyway. Sorry Colorado has shitty concealed weapon laws, but guess what
the crazed Killers like the one in Connecticut last week are Crazy, they have nothing to do with LEGAL gun owners. They DON’T obey the Laws! They don’t obey any laws. Some of the worst mass shootings in history have taken place in countries with extreme "restrictive" gun laws. The bad guy still got the guns. Look at New York for example, they have just about the toughest gun laws in the country, and still they have people killing each other almost every day in Harlem.
Guns are the reason you can walk around free every single day. They are the reason we won two World Wars. They the reason your Grand Father lived to see another day, after being thrown in the middle of bullets hurdling across beaches while innocent people around him died. They're the reason he made it home to his wife, after years of pain and loneliness, just so he could conceive you—an ungrateful victim of the media hype machine. Guns DON'T kill people; in fact, they just sit there and DO NOTHING, until an unstable moron like John Holmes decides he wants to shoot up a movie theater.
If we are to follow your lame-brain ideas, let's get rid of everything, and anything relating to weapons, or anything else that could kill people or that could be used to hurt people if put in the hands of someone that had intent to do so, and start with, hunting knives, steak knives, butter knives, baseball bats, the Major League Baseball since they promotes baseball bats, video games, cars, boxing gloves and box cutters. And why not put all Rappers, Football and Basketball players in jail while we are at it, after all they are mostly all sociopaths as well. Look at the crime statistics among professional football and basketball players. A bit of research on this topis resulted in this statistic:
“In 2010, the NFL experienced 507 arrests of its players”

And by the way, I have read your posts on these boards before and let me say that you libs who write them are extremely ignorant... Just like most of the other PROGRESSIVE’S that post here.. Lastly, just as you don't like the "crazy right-winger" talking about guns I don't like your bat-crap left wing ideas either. And the, colorful vocabulary of these Liberal nut jobs only goes to prove that you are a simple minded typical Liberals!

Chuck said...

Redneck, are you lost or just an idiot?

-This blog was not about guns. Perhaps the writing was too complex for you. Try reading it again more slowly or, better yet, have someone read it to you.

(BTW, I am strongly pro-second amendment)

-I'm not sure where the liberal accusation comes in. If you have been reading my blog as you say (I have only posted 7 in the last two months), I find it hard to believe you think I am a liberal. If I am too liberal for you than that says more about you than it does me.

Quite frankly you are presenting yourself as the very caricature of the ranting bat-shit crazy conservative that the leftist media wants everyone to believe that we are. Keep up the stereotypes, you're helping us all out.

Have a nice day.

Always On Watch said...


Most of have no idea as to what is going on behind closed doors, the doors behind which families are trying to cope with mentally-ill family members.

Darth Bacon said...

The pipsqueak in the White House and his Commie cronies are beyond belief. Clearly we cannot continue along this path

Radical Redneck said...

Hey Chuck, I'm sorry and you are right, I guess I had too much wine at my Christmas dinner, that rant was not meant for your blog, I was responding to another blog and had your's up by mistake.

Sorry bout that.

And please in the future DON'T call me an Idiot, or I'll have to show you what nasty words can to to my temper.

Chuck said...

AOW, it can be amazing. I have seen many perfectly "normal" families bring in family members with a lot of problems.

Darth, agreed with one exception - we will continue, for four more years. Strap in.

Redneck, apology accepted.

As to this

And please in the future DON'T call me an Idiot, or I'll have to show you what nasty words can to to my temper

Don't act like an idiot and I will not call you one.

Finally, rest assured your temper has no relevance to me.

Radical Redneck said...

Chuckie Boy said
"And please in the future DON'T call me an Idiot, or I'll have to show you what nasty words can to to my temper

Don't act like an idiot and I will not call you one.

Finally, rest assured your temper has no relevance to me."

Don't worry bout that Chuckie Boy, y'all won't be seeing me around these parts any more, have fun with your one or two people who come here once in a blue moon and comment.

Z said...

Excellent post, Chuck. (and so good to see you posting and commenting again...I know you're busy but you're SO missed when you're not around).

Let me just address your comment about LaPierre's choices of words; WHY does the Right have such a propensity for stinkbombs like "lunatic" which immediately lose us our CAUSE? Coulter makes excellent points but she, too, uses that kind of term that ignites the libs.

Sometimes I think it's not that it's not only we who pick those words but the left does, too, except the media doesn't glom onto them. They can't really shoot holes in their points so they shoot at their terminology?

Still, all conservatives would go a lot farther if they watched their choice of words. LUnatics WAS correct, but the PC people go NUTS.

oh, Chuck...I fear for our kids.

Alligator said...

Well said Chuck.

Truth, And Integrity said...

I Think Any Conflict More Likely to Be Initiated Now, than Later. Now, and the Leftists/progressives Can Say, the Right Is Loonie Tunes and Whacko, and We Need to Treat Them like Terrorists. Later, as the Prospects for the Loss of Liberties Are More Obvious Even to the Densest among Us, They Will Have a Harder Time Explaining Why Their Restraints on Liberty & Right Are Not Precisely That. By Which Time They Hope Fervently That We Are to Be Disarmed.

Personally, as Far as I Am Concerned, the Sooner the Fight, the Better.

Right Now, the Military Are with Us (Or, Just as Importantly, Certainly Have No Love Lost for Obama).

Chuck said...

Radical, bye.

Z, I agree that we are scrutinized more but he still could have been more careful.

We need to get on top of this now

Alligator, thanks.

Brooke said...

First of all, good to see you, Chuck, and Happy New Year!

This is a very complex issue. I think calling all those who are mentally ill or have a disability a lunatic, or treating them as second class citizens is wrong, but I do think the Newton murderer was criminally insane!

Of course, anyone who could go on a shooting rampage is wrong in the head, to be sure. I'm sure the murderer also put up PLENTY of warning signs.

The issue, IMO, is putting reasonable tools in place to find those people before they commit an atrocity.Resourses for families.

There was rumor that the shooter's mother wanted to have him committed. That she knew and told others to never turn your back to him...

Committing someone takes an act of God nowadays. And it should not be easy, as we don't want the government usurping people's rights! However, the families that deal with the seriously mentally ill have very little at their disposal...


On the other side of the coin, on my last day at University Hospital Cincinnati in the ER Triage area, I had a guy arrested for attempting to sexually assault me. Luckily, I was too fast for him... But this guy knew how to play the 'crazy card.' (He was a frequent flyer.)Therefore, he didn't get ANY punishment!

It seems like the whole system is a failure! Time for a total reset! Sorry if I went on!

My Thoughts said...

Have a Happy and a Healthy New Year, and keep uo the good work.

Chuck said...

Thoughts, thank you and same to you

Right Wing Theocrat said...

We've entered a weird zone now where the facts and reality don't matter, a certain agenda is being pushed and that's all that's being pushed, they'll use anyone and anything to further their agenda.

Unfortunately for us, most are too stupid to see it and the rest are slowly giving up trying to convince the morons to come to their senses.

Chuck said...


Unfortunately for us, most are too stupid to see it and the rest are slowly giving up trying to convince the morons to come to their senses.

I am of the latter. I am fed up with trying to make a difference.

Here's hoping you have a good year my friend.